Chapman is saying people who are actually a good person, they are truly great. What he means is that some people just pretend to be a good person. A lot of people will pretend to do this mostly because they want something. Imagine a little kid who always misbehaves until near December. They believe Santa is watching them so they will pretend to be good until December is over. People who are actually a good person 24/7, those are the truly great.
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